Comments on: Offering Ancillary Products and Services http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/ Resources for NPs in Business Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:18:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: sylvia judd http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-176 sylvia judd Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:53:44 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-176 Hello Barbara, Thank you sooo much for posting my question on your site; I just completed reading it out loud to my husband & we really enjoyed your commentary. You brought up several valid points. I posted this very issue on an NP message board site & oh my gosh, do they certainly think that what I want to undertake is unethical! The general consensus is; it is wrong to be able to pocket the profits and that I might influence/sway pts. into taking my products. How far from the truth. You are spot-on in your article when you stated that generating profits in healthcare is a dirty word; actually it’s a dirty word to many nurses, for doctors have no qualms about generating a sizeable income (example? Herding pts. into their practices like cattle). My NP friend just returned from a medical conference on venous procedures; the first thing that came out of the keynote speaker's (a physician) mouth was: "We're in this business for the money". Nursing seems to be a martyr profession; that we should give our time and services away for next to nothing. But you’re right, it is a business & we do need to keep our doors open so that we may continue to provide quality care to our pts. This topic I have found, really has opened a can of worms & it has given me an insight to how many of my peers think. Thanks again! Hello Barbara,

Thank you sooo much for posting my question on your site; I just completed reading it out loud to my husband & we really enjoyed your commentary. You brought up several valid points.
I posted this very issue on an NP message board site & oh my gosh, do they certainly think that what I want to undertake is unethical!
The general consensus is; it is wrong to be able to pocket the profits and that I might influence/sway pts. into taking my products. How far from the truth.

You are spot-on in your article when you stated that generating profits in healthcare is a dirty word; actually it’s a dirty word to many nurses, for doctors have no qualms about generating a sizeable income (example? Herding pts. into their practices like cattle).
My NP friend just returned from a medical conference on venous procedures; the first thing that came out of the keynote speaker’s (a physician) mouth was: “We’re in this business for the money”.
Nursing seems to be a martyr profession; that we should give our time and services away for next to nothing. But you’re right, it is a business & we do need to keep our doors open so that we may continue to provide quality care to our pts.
This topic I have found, really has opened a can of worms & it has given me an insight to how many of my peers think.

Thanks again!

]]> By: Laura Hoeman http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-177 Laura Hoeman Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:21:57 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-177 I agree with everything that's been said. I don't offer nutritional supplements but it's something I'd like to look into. It's hard enough to keep our doors open as it is--why not use this to help keep our services available? And these supplements are often helpful. I often suggest black cohosh to my clients...it makes sense to make available in my office a high-quality black cohosh supplement. If I didn't have a fulltime paycheck in addition to my private practice I would be poor. Private practice can be a hard way to make a living--and I have a lot of patients! (Mostly Medicaid.) Yes, bring on the nutritional supplements! I agree with everything that’s been said. I don’t offer nutritional supplements but it’s something I’d like to look into. It’s hard enough to keep our doors open as it is–why not use this to help keep our services available? And these supplements are often helpful. I often suggest black cohosh to my clients…it makes sense to make available in my office a high-quality black cohosh supplement. If I didn’t have a fulltime paycheck in addition to my private practice I would be poor. Private practice can be a hard way to make a living–and I have a lot of patients! (Mostly Medicaid.) Yes, bring on the nutritional supplements!

]]> By: Laura Thiem http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-180 Laura Thiem Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:10:30 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-180 A cardiology practice in Kansas City created their own supplement: Cardiotabs. They sell them, they promote them and they have the local pharmacies carrying them. What's the difference? Here's the link to their product line: http://www.cardiotabs.com/ What do youall think? A cardiology practice in Kansas City created their own supplement: Cardiotabs.
They sell them, they promote them and they have the local pharmacies carrying them. What’s the difference?

Here’s the link to their product line:

http://www.cardiotabs.com/

What do youall think?

]]> By: paula sumner http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-183 paula sumner Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:24:38 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-183 I am interested in this topic. Has anyone found nutriceuticals that you would associate your name with? Go into any chiropractor's office and you will see products for sale. I saw a DO recently, and he had all kinds of products, but did not push them on me. I did take 2 of them but had some concerns. I emailed the company twice, and they never answered me, so I stopped the products. I am working on an internet marketing class, and thought if i could get set up with a reliable company, that would provide me the work I need for class, and an income. paula I am interested in this topic. Has anyone found nutriceuticals that you would associate your name with? Go into any chiropractor’s office and you will see products for sale. I saw a DO recently, and he had all kinds of products, but did not push them on me. I did take 2 of them but had some concerns. I emailed the company twice, and they never answered me, so I stopped the products.

I am working on an internet marketing class, and thought if i could get set up with a reliable company, that would provide me the work I need for class, and an income.

paula

]]> By: bcp http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-187 bcp Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:18:37 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-187 Sylvia - having enough cash flow - be it from the sale of vitamins, carrying out procedures, or finally receiving payment from the insurance companies allows me to "donate" some of my services. For example, there is one woman I see, who I saw for free until she could obtain some insurance. While that was in progress, she'd occasionally bring in fresh crab (her son is a commercial fisherman). I plan on doing that for a few more individuals as well. However, there are times we do that inadvertently anyway...for all those individuals who do not want to pay their bills! Laura H - true words, it is difficult to make ends meet in practice, especially with mostly DSHS pts. I don't know about other states, but I do know what reimbursement is here in WA. And finding psych services for those with DSHS is near impossible, so thank you for being there! If you are open to new pts, drop me a line...there are several I am trying to find someone for them to see. Laura T - there is no difference. Paula - there are some good products out there. I'm looking at one company that happens to be out of WA. They only sell to health care providers for them to have in their office. They apparently do quite a bit of research as well. I'll be ordering a few things today for me to use, and if I like it enough, I'll offer it in the office. Barbara Sylvia - having enough cash flow - be it from the sale of vitamins, carrying out procedures, or finally receiving payment from the insurance companies allows me to “donate” some of my services. For example, there is one woman I see, who I saw for free until she could obtain some insurance. While that was in progress, she’d occasionally bring in fresh crab (her son is a commercial fisherman). I plan on doing that for a few more individuals as well. However, there are times we do that inadvertently anyway…for all those individuals who do not want to pay their bills!

Laura H - true words, it is difficult to make ends meet in practice, especially with mostly DSHS pts. I don’t know about other states, but I do know what reimbursement is here in WA. And finding psych services for those with DSHS is near impossible, so thank you for being there! If you are open to new pts, drop me a line…there are several I am trying to find someone for them to see.

Laura T - there is no difference.

Paula - there are some good products out there. I’m looking at one company that happens to be out of WA. They only sell to health care providers for them to have in their office. They apparently do quite a bit of research as well. I’ll be ordering a few things today for me to use, and if I like it enough, I’ll offer it in the office.

Barbara

]]> By: sylvia judd http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-193 sylvia judd Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:06:44 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-193 Hi Paula, I am an indepenent distributor with Market America, an Internet marketing business. I take some of their products & can confidently say that I would recommend them to my clients. We also have numerous unsolicited testimonials & I can direct you to a web address so that you may read them. They offer (among many other products) a line of nutraceuticals, called NutraMetrix. Our weight management program has also had tremendous results. Dr. Shari Lieberman is the co-founder & she's done a pilot study with promising results. The research is plentiful that supports their findings & if you would like additional information, i'd be happy to share with you. please see my website. You may also reach me at sevule@juddshouse.com hope to hear from you! Hi Paula,
I am an indepenent distributor with Market America, an Internet marketing business.
I take some of their products & can confidently say that I would recommend them to my clients. We also have numerous unsolicited testimonials & I can direct you to a web address so that you may read them.
They offer (among many other products) a line of nutraceuticals, called NutraMetrix. Our weight management program has also had tremendous results. Dr. Shari Lieberman is the co-founder & she’s done a pilot study with promising results.
The research is plentiful that supports their findings & if you would like additional information, i’d be happy to share with you. please see my website.
You may also reach me at sevule@juddshouse.com
hope to hear from you!

]]> By: Carla Anderson http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-198 Carla Anderson Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:28:07 +0000 http://npbusiness.org/2007/08/12/offering-ancillary-products-and-services/#comment-198 I know of one practice here in Oregon, where the NP is a distributor for Univera, which has products for energy and joint issues like Regenicare, and Ageless extra. She started representing them after she saw personal results herself, although like with most nutraceuticals, it took at least 90 days, and it is not cheap. I have noticed that she never talks about the products, but they are on some of her counter tops and if patients ask about them or want to try them, that is when she will give them some samples, but of course usually it is only enough for a week, and then if they want to get more, they would have to purchase. I do see other types of practitioners such as Naturopaths, and Medi-spas that offer products quite frequently. I know of one practice here in Oregon, where the NP is a distributor for Univera, which has products for energy and joint issues like Regenicare, and Ageless extra. She started representing them after she saw personal results herself, although like with most nutraceuticals, it took at least 90 days, and it is not cheap. I have noticed that she never talks about the products, but they are on some of her counter tops and if patients ask about them or want to try them, that is when she will give them some samples, but of course usually it is only enough for a week, and then if they want to get more, they would have to purchase. I do see other types of practitioners such as Naturopaths, and Medi-spas that offer products quite frequently.

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