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		<title>By: bcp</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cecelia,

Try contacting your state insurance commissioner. This link has information on how you as a health care provider can file a complaint. http://www.ncdoi.com/Consumer/consumer_providers.asp

In fact, in todays health care climate, it might be a good idea that any time we run up against this, we file complaints. 

Keep us posted.

Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cecelia,</p>
<p>Try contacting your state insurance commissioner. This link has information on how you as a health care provider can file a complaint. <a href="http://www.ncdoi.com/Consumer/consumer_providers.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncdoi.com/Consumer/consumer_providers.asp</a></p>
<p>In fact, in todays health care climate, it might be a good idea that any time we run up against this, we file complaints. </p>
<p>Keep us posted.</p>
<p>Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: Cecelia</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecelia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

What can we do in effort to keep our patients when we accept medicare. In Virginia, medicare patients eventually are changed to a PPO. This poses a problem. The PPO's here will not credential NP's. Catch 22 or what?  There must be something I can do.

The only insurance thus far that has agreed to credential me as an NP is Medicare, Medicaid and Tricare.

Any suggestions.  I do plan to offer flat fee. But really need a suggestion on how to get credentialed.  Does anyone have a good template for a reconcideration letter?

Thanks,
Cecelia
clrk4@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>What can we do in effort to keep our patients when we accept medicare. In Virginia, medicare patients eventually are changed to a PPO. This poses a problem. The PPO&#8217;s here will not credential NP&#8217;s. Catch 22 or what?  There must be something I can do.</p>
<p>The only insurance thus far that has agreed to credential me as an NP is Medicare, Medicaid and Tricare.</p>
<p>Any suggestions.  I do plan to offer flat fee. But really need a suggestion on how to get credentialed.  Does anyone have a good template for a reconcideration letter?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Cecelia<br />
<a href="mailto:clrk4@aol.com">clrk4@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Carla Anderson</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sherry

Yes, if you see a patient on a certain date that your practice is open, and Medicare makes your contract retroactive to that date, then even if it was 4 months prior, you can submit your claim and they will pay it. Just remember that Medicare does not pay for preventative codes like 99386 etc, unless they are brand new to Medicare and it is part of their "Welcome to Medicare" benefit. I made this mistake, for an "annual exam" for a 72 yr old female who transferred care to me, and I had just opened, and spent an hour with this patient, and Medicare paid zero.  I should have charged a 99204 as an office visit, as she did have health concerns. Just look up all of the coding exceptions, for screening as well.  Carla</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sherry</p>
<p>Yes, if you see a patient on a certain date that your practice is open, and Medicare makes your contract retroactive to that date, then even if it was 4 months prior, you can submit your claim and they will pay it. Just remember that Medicare does not pay for preventative codes like 99386 etc, unless they are brand new to Medicare and it is part of their &#8220;Welcome to Medicare&#8221; benefit. I made this mistake, for an &#8220;annual exam&#8221; for a 72 yr old female who transferred care to me, and I had just opened, and spent an hour with this patient, and Medicare paid zero.  I should have charged a 99204 as an office visit, as she did have health concerns. Just look up all of the coding exceptions, for screening as well.  Carla</p>
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		<title>By: Sherry Kent</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherry Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have submitted all of my medicare forms a few weeks ago. I was told it may take some time to get a response back from them. Is it any faster if you had a previous Medicare number from working with someone else. OR does that not really make any difference. I was told I could back bill once it all goes through as long as the date I put for opening on the application was before then. Anyone know if this is correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have submitted all of my medicare forms a few weeks ago. I was told it may take some time to get a response back from them. Is it any faster if you had a previous Medicare number from working with someone else. OR does that not really make any difference. I was told I could back bill once it all goes through as long as the date I put for opening on the application was before then. Anyone know if this is correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Todd</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello ladies!
I have just found this site and read through your notes on Medicare. I opened an osteoporosis clinic in December 2006. After filling out all forms and receiving 2 NPI numbers I was finally recognized and able to start billing in May. Guess what, there was a glitch in their system(or mine) and all my bills needed to be resubmitted as 2 numbers were in the wrong box. I have finally started to receive reimbursement 10 months after opening. 
I hope that you have a much better response than I did! I am hoping to learn from others as there is only one other NP clinic in my community.
Thanks for any info!
Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello ladies!<br />
I have just found this site and read through your notes on Medicare. I opened an osteoporosis clinic in December 2006. After filling out all forms and receiving 2 NPI numbers I was finally recognized and able to start billing in May. Guess what, there was a glitch in their system(or mine) and all my bills needed to be resubmitted as 2 numbers were in the wrong box. I have finally started to receive reimbursement 10 months after opening.<br />
I hope that you have a much better response than I did! I am hoping to learn from others as there is only one other NP clinic in my community.<br />
Thanks for any info!<br />
Kris</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Anderson</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barb,

For Oregon,

I filled out an 855i
                      460
                      588
and an electronic filing agreement with a letter from the bank. I called 7 customer service agents and got seven different answers about areas on the form, because I was previously credentialed as an employee for someone else before, and now I am filing as a different business entity.  But you are right. You have to give your personal npi, your clinic npi, your clinic tax id number, and then eventually I should get a Medicare  number for myself, a separate one for the clinic that will attach to my clinic tax id for billing, and then if I work for another provider, which I am doing, I will have to fill out an 855b to have a different Medicare billing number attached to that organization. It does seem as if you should have just one NPI that attaches to the different tax id numbers of all of the different places you work, but they still have it more complicated.  I also was able to find a site that I paid 20.00 for, but it allowed the documents to be re saved, and typed on line, instead of printed and hand written. When you try to type on the original Medicare Noridian Website application, things get deleted, and it does not work well at all. With that one you just have to print it off and hand write it.

I notice you said you filled out an 855b? I was told repeatedly that I had to fill out an 855i as a nurse practitioner, that was starting a "new business entity", so I had to fill out the "individual form"... I will call Monday now that I am getting a chance to catch up on the insurances, and see what the status is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barb,</p>
<p>For Oregon,</p>
<p>I filled out an 855i<br />
                      460<br />
                      588<br />
and an electronic filing agreement with a letter from the bank. I called 7 customer service agents and got seven different answers about areas on the form, because I was previously credentialed as an employee for someone else before, and now I am filing as a different business entity.  But you are right. You have to give your personal npi, your clinic npi, your clinic tax id number, and then eventually I should get a Medicare  number for myself, a separate one for the clinic that will attach to my clinic tax id for billing, and then if I work for another provider, which I am doing, I will have to fill out an 855b to have a different Medicare billing number attached to that organization. It does seem as if you should have just one NPI that attaches to the different tax id numbers of all of the different places you work, but they still have it more complicated.  I also was able to find a site that I paid 20.00 for, but it allowed the documents to be re saved, and typed on line, instead of printed and hand written. When you try to type on the original Medicare Noridian Website application, things get deleted, and it does not work well at all. With that one you just have to print it off and hand write it.</p>
<p>I notice you said you filled out an 855b? I was told repeatedly that I had to fill out an 855i as a nurse practitioner, that was starting a &#8220;new business entity&#8221;, so I had to fill out the &#8220;individual form&#8221;&#8230; I will call Monday now that I am getting a chance to catch up on the insurances, and see what the status is.</p>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eve,

You can find the standardized forms for WA State in both word and pdf at http://www.wamss.org/02Tools.html.  

Download a copy and add your information. You can print out the entire thing each time you have an application you are sending in. You'll just need to sign it after filling out the attestation page (which you sign as well). The word doc form is about 13 pages.

Hope this helps.

Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eve,</p>
<p>You can find the standardized forms for WA State in both word and pdf at <a href="http://www.wamss.org/02Tools.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wamss.org/02Tools.html</a>.  </p>
<p>Download a copy and add your information. You can print out the entire thing each time you have an application you are sending in. You&#8217;ll just need to sign it after filling out the attestation page (which you sign as well). The word doc form is about 13 pages.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the standard one-form credentialing packet for Washington state?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the standard one-form credentialing packet for Washington state?</p>
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		<title>By: bcp</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>bcp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla,

I finally have my paperwork in front of me. It seems like eons ago since I did this. I filled out the following:
1.  CMS 885B 
2.  CMS 460 (Participating Agreement)
3.  CMS 588

You are correct...I had to have one for my LLC and on for myself (group and individual).

If you want to file electronically directly to CMS, you need a EDI Enrollment Form among other things. Since I am using Office Ally, I didn't need to do that.

Something we recently learned, is there is something called Medicare/Medicaid crossover. Medicare will tell you they are sending the bills to Medicaid, but unless you actually sign up for that...it does not happen. I've asked her to write more about that for us...so stay tuned.

Barbara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla,</p>
<p>I finally have my paperwork in front of me. It seems like eons ago since I did this. I filled out the following:<br />
1.  CMS 885B<br />
2.  CMS 460 (Participating Agreement)<br />
3.  CMS 588</p>
<p>You are correct&#8230;I had to have one for my LLC and on for myself (group and individual).</p>
<p>If you want to file electronically directly to CMS, you need a EDI Enrollment Form among other things. Since I am using Office Ally, I didn&#8217;t need to do that.</p>
<p>Something we recently learned, is there is something called Medicare/Medicaid crossover. Medicare will tell you they are sending the bills to Medicaid, but unless you actually sign up for that&#8230;it does not happen. I&#8217;ve asked her to write more about that for us&#8230;so stay tuned.</p>
<p>Barbara</p>
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		<title>By: Carla Anderson</title>
		<link>http://npbusiness.org/2007/07/06/medicare-credentialing-applications/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Carla Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Weekend everyone.  I finally finished filling out the Medicare papers, (855i)and getting the bank to write on letter head acknowledging that I had an account there. Now my situation is, I was an individual employee before, attached to a group tax id,, now I am  considered a "new enrollee" not "re enrollee", as I am enrolling for the FIRST time as a PC (professional corp) for my clinic Healing Presence.  I had to have both my clinic NPI and individual NPI prior to filling out Medicare. In addition, if you want Electronic funds deposit, and you are going to be a participating provider, there are addl 588 and 460 forms to fill out.  I asked 6 different people at the Medicare customer service, and was told 6 different answers and that is why it took so long. I wanted to make sure that I did not turn it in, and find glitches. I am still hoping it is right. The Medicare form I tried to type on line but it seemed to be in a hidden excel format, it kept adding and duplicating my words when I clicked on the next line, not working well. So I found a company and just ended up paying 20.00 to a company that was called "EZ Medicare forms"  so I could save it, and re type, etc, delete, without error. Medicare customer service said there should not be any scratch outs or errors on the form.. If I were now to go work part time, for an NP or MD owned clinic, then I would need an addl 855R form filled out, and I would get even another Medicare number assigned to that clinic tax id number for billing. As it is, I will end up with 2, one for me as an individual, and one for me as a corporation.   I hope to hear more comments from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Weekend everyone.  I finally finished filling out the Medicare papers, (855i)and getting the bank to write on letter head acknowledging that I had an account there. Now my situation is, I was an individual employee before, attached to a group tax id,, now I am  considered a &#8220;new enrollee&#8221; not &#8220;re enrollee&#8221;, as I am enrolling for the FIRST time as a PC (professional corp) for my clinic Healing Presence.  I had to have both my clinic NPI and individual NPI prior to filling out Medicare. In addition, if you want Electronic funds deposit, and you are going to be a participating provider, there are addl 588 and 460 forms to fill out.  I asked 6 different people at the Medicare customer service, and was told 6 different answers and that is why it took so long. I wanted to make sure that I did not turn it in, and find glitches. I am still hoping it is right. The Medicare form I tried to type on line but it seemed to be in a hidden excel format, it kept adding and duplicating my words when I clicked on the next line, not working well. So I found a company and just ended up paying 20.00 to a company that was called &#8220;EZ Medicare forms&#8221;  so I could save it, and re type, etc, delete, without error. Medicare customer service said there should not be any scratch outs or errors on the form.. If I were now to go work part time, for an NP or MD owned clinic, then I would need an addl 855R form filled out, and I would get even another Medicare number assigned to that clinic tax id number for billing. As it is, I will end up with 2, one for me as an individual, and one for me as a corporation.   I hope to hear more comments from others.</p>
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